Is GMU really a great school?
Aside from all the hype the admissions office or student ambassadors fluff up about gmu to make it sound so great, is it really?
Im a senior in high school and I really think gmu is the school for me but there is still doubt as to whether or not its really as great as it seems...
can someone, anyone, give me their opinion on the school-negatives, positives, ANYTHING
i could really use it
thanks
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Hi!
If you know how to make your own fun, then go to George Mason and go beyond your safety zone to really advertise yourself and your interests and find people who will join you in your pursuits. This is critical. The enormous commuter and/or part-time student population at GMU creates a horrendously lackluster social environment on campus in the evenings and on weekends, but if you are creative enough then you can keep busy as a residential student. Unfortunately the meager offerings of weekend activities on campus (terribly melodramatic emo bands, unfunny comedians, subpar magicians) prompt many students to party some place off campus to feel more "active" and eventually return to campus drunk and obnoxious. However, there are enough people who attend the school and are smart enough not to drink underage and get in trouble and who actually care about their scholastic progress, physical health, and social wellness to avoid such crass activity, but they are in the minority and you really have to find them. The majority of these Alpha Lambda Delta-esque students commute to campus, though ...
Very specific clubs provide a lot of opportunity; I will say this. The Catholic Campus Ministry is one of the very few in which I involved myself and met a lot of people because it was constantly busy; the people there, although friendly, are exceedingly conservative, however. I am straight yet very much advocate gay rights and promote contraception, but they really contest against such issues. I also joined the Filipino Cultural Association, but it generally became an exclusive clique. I was very busy with homework and could not attend enough of the initial FCA meetings, and by the time I attended a meeting mid-semester I already felt incredibly left out of the group.
Academically, well ... the professors are fantastic. Your classmates may not be so much unless you are in the honors program. The majority of students who actually participate in class, answer a professor's questions in class, and/or actually do their homework are typically the older, more mature, thirtysomething nontraditional students who return to college part-time while working full-time. The more traditionally-aged teenage/twentysomething students always seem less motivated to succeed; maybe this was just coincidence among every single one of my classes, but I personally did not like it at all.
Overall, my opinion of GMU is obviously a mixed one. I know so many people who only go there because they have to go there. Either they did not get into any other university (typical GMU students will always be biased and say, "Admission to this place is getting more competitive," but frankly, SAT scores in the 400-500 range of each section of that exam still are not very impressive ... and neither is having an average high school GPA of 3.3 to gain admittance), or they could not afford the cost of room and board elsewhere. Personally, I went to GMU because my parents wanted me close to home and because I had health issues, although I lived on campus. The few people there I call my friends are truly my best friends, and they stand out intellectually and socially from the rest of the typical GMU population. I am happy that I met them at GMU ... but I eventually got fed up with the negatives of the school and transferred out. I now attend a university that is at the very least among the top twenty public universities in the country, and so far I have had a blast here, except that I miss my best of best friends back home.
But carefully weigh your postsecondary options, and good luck on choosing a school that's right for you! :-)
Sincerely,
"Velvet Smash"
hmm...so basically
So basically if i am really involved and kinda make it a challenge to be known there I will fit in fine and have fun? Does it seem like the different ethnicities form cliques with each other?or do you think its not like that at all?
Sarina
Yes, involvement can really
Yes, involvement can really enhance your GMU experience. Obviously doing well in your classes should be your foremost focus (particularly if you're pre-med), but engaging in one or two worthwhile and productive organizations on campus, though important at any school, is ESPECIALLY key at George Mason to having a very fun (here's hoping!) and more well-rounded time.
The reason why I say you should really make yourself known is that advertising and promotions on campus often do not really get through to students. Students can easily pass the two or so cluttered bulletin boards at the entrances to the Johnson Center and never even glance at them. Messages written in chalk on sidewalks easily fade. Facebook invitations help, but the Internet certainly should not be the only means by which students can receive news of special events. If you really go out on a limb (pardon the cliché) with making a name for yourself--and for the sake of meeting potential best friends who genuinely share interests similar to yours, NOT with the intention of becoming Ms. Popular--then you'll probably be among the happiest people on campus. And that's a good thing.
As for the different ethnicities at GMU: Of course students will clump together in different groups that vary by ethnicity and/or religion, but that's certainly not the case with everybody. For instance, I'm Asian, and my close friends from GMU are literally of every color and various religious traditions (from Catholic to Buddhist to atheist). So yes, although different ethnicities form different cliques, there's a vast number of exceptions to that. Plenty of people clump together according to almost ANY common interest they share, but it's ultimately up to you to choose with whom you want to hang out.
Lastly, go to basketball games when your schedule allows it, hahaha. :-) I admit that attending those games is something I'll miss about going there the past year, although at my new school the football scene is quite exciting ...
Again, good luck! :-)
thanks
haha thanks for your input, it really REALLY helped!im excited to challenge myself to get involved! haha i wont bother you with anymore questions, but once again, thanks i really needed it.
Sarina
Is GMU really a great school?
Stats
-GMU-BS in economics with a minor in French.
-Lived on campus
-International Student
-Female
Overall the experience I had was very good.
-The teachers were excellent and very motivational.
-There are plenty of opportunities to get involved (Broadside,
Fraternities, Clubs).
-Very diverse campus.
-Proximity to DC makes it great for culture and gastronomy.
-Got a summer scholarship to Georgetown through the Econ Dept.
-Did summer program at the Sorbonne.
In terms of partying I would not recommend it. My friends and I were continually in trouble with the Resident Adsivers and the Campus Police are terminators. BUT the partying you do get away with will be extremely memorable.
As long as you are motivated and willing to get involved GMU is a great school.
Do you think
Do you think that even though GMU isnt really a party school that a person could still find things to do?like with the people on campus?
Sarina
Like any other university...
There are definitely ups and downs to GMU. I can only speak as a commuter student, so here goes:
Pros:
1.) I don't know where you live currently, but I love being able to remain near my family and friends. It's a nice balance--you make new friends at school, but you still retain all your old friends from high school and work. (At least I did.)
2.) All the faculty I've run into are pretty awesome. We have a TON of awesome professors, who really take a personal interest in your success as a student. I'm an English major, and most of my classes are really intellectually stimulating AND practical for my career, without being too hard or homework heavy.
3.) There's a lot of ways to be involved on campus, something I wish I had learned sooner. If you're into radio broadcasting, you can work at the radio station. If you love music, our music department is awesome. English majors have newspapers and magazines and websites. Business majors have...well...whatever business majors have. :) But, because this isn't a huge party school, people are forced to build friendships outside of alcohol and partying (which, in my opinion, is healthy). Which brings me to my next point...
4.) If you want a party school, don't come to GMU. Like other people have said, the Fairfax police don't mess around. BUT, there's fun to be had, if you know where to look. Getting involved in what's going on campus is easy and fun.
5.) If you're not from the area, Northern Virginia is a GREAT place to further whatever your future career may be. It's one of the fastest growing, wealthiest areas in the country, and it's close proximity to DC offers students tons of internship opportunities and jobs.
Yeah, there are Cons, but I guess I'm not as conspiratorial as other people. Parking can suck, but if you know how to beat the system, you'll be fine. (Tip: Wait at where the people leaving enter the parking lot, smile pretty and ask where they're parked, and usually they'll take you to where their car is. The parking situation really brings people together! And, yes, I'm optimistic.) I can't think of anything else I really loathe about this campus. A football team would be fun, but I don't require it as a part of my college experience. (If you love football, we're so close to University of Maryland and Tech and stuff, so you can get your fill.) Greeks aren't really a huge huge player here like on other campuses, but again, that doesn't affect me.
I hope this helps! I think one of the biggest things that will help your decision is actually come tour campus!
haha wow thats pretty awesome
haha I havent found one commuter from GMU that actually thought it was a great school-you are optimistic!but thanks, i needed to know that there are actually commuters who enjoyed gmu. For me, I live in va beach, but living far away does not affect me since all of my friends will be going away as well. And haha before I didnt exactly care that there wasnt a football team but now that u suggest jus going to other schools, it further comfirms my judgement of going to gmu...
if you dont mind me asking, what was your best and worst experience or moment at gmu?
Sarina
best/worst
My best day EVER at Mason was during Mason Day last year. Every year, Mason throws a huge event where bands play and there's free food. This past year, Gym Class Heroes and Tyga came for a free concert, and we totally got to hang out with them on the bus. (Perks of working for Student Media!) That probably leads into one of the other cool things about Mason--The Patriot Center. A ton of awesome bands and events come through, and as students, you can get super cheap tickets. For instance, One Republic is coming to Pat Center, and tickets are ten bucks. It doesn't get better than that!
Maybe I am too optimistic, but I haven't had any really horrible experiences. I'd say the thing I like least is the commute, but that doesn't affect you if you're going to live on campus.
oh wow
that sounds like sooo much funn!!and dont worry!i love your optimism!we need more people like that in this world! i dont want to bether you anymore with questions etc, but thank you again for all of your help
Sarina
Go for Mason.
Here are my top reasons for why students should go to GMU:
1) close to DC: plentiful opportunities for internships and jobs that pay VERY WELL
2) close to DC: where the fun is
3) diversity:
You come into contact with students who will teach you much more than you think.
Most Mason professors teach from a global perspective.
And the variety of food is just great.. kabob, sushi, is not bad at all.
However,
If you're looking for a good party school, avoid Mason. Fairfax/Mason cops will find you, and the residential advisors will feed you to the cops.
That's probably my only complaint.
All the best.
IM ALL FOR MASON!!!!!! <3
haha YESS!!!!All of the reasons you mentioned seemed WONDERFUL and those are really huge factors in my college decision. Although partying isnt a big concern for me, I am really concerned about activites etc on/off campus...what did you do in your spare time?like with friends, in clubs and organizations, off campus... and if you dont mind me asking- what was your best and worse experience or moment at GMU??
Sarina
Please Don't Go to Mason. Save yourself the Time and Money!
Personally, I stopped sharing my opinions on how bad Mason truly is (even though I will here), because people tend to respond in two ways- 1) They don't care what you have to say and blow you off, or 2) They quote useless stats and random "justifications" for how "great" this school truly is.
This school has issues, and no one seems to want to address them. You could go through the list of them ALL, but it would take forever. The biggest problem is that no one speaks up. They just skate through the four years (or 5 for some) and take the diploma and leave. Those who do try to get the word out are shut down by hopelessly blind students, nameless faces on the Internet, or the Administration (piece of advice, NEVER post something on the SG Forum that is critical of the school. The Administration patrols the site and uses what you say to make your life HELL. I could go in-depth, but I don't have the time right now).
What I find laughable is the recent "recognition" we got as the "#1 Up and Coming School!" It's based on the amount of MONEY spent to improve the facilities on campus, and the areas of academics that were ALREADY successful; IT, Engineering, and Bio-Chemical research. Other then that, there isn't much to brag about. 35% of our students transfer after the first year, 5% of our alumni give back to the school, we have the LOWEST Endowment fund for any school of our age and size in the country, and 75% of our first year students are on some form of academic punishment after their first year.
Hell, have the reason why most people like me STAYED the whole time, was because we couldn't afford to transfer, or "gasp" Mason's credits aren't very transferable to BETTER schools because half the colleges don't know what in the HELL those classes really are. Try using your degree that is outside of IT, Engineering, or Bio-Chemical research to get a job in DC- YOU WILL GET LAUGHED AT. Mason is the safe school for Northern Virginia students, and out-of-state students whose GPA's and SAT scores couldn't hack it anywhere else. This school under-prepares you for life, and most of the degrees are practically WORTHLESS. I am so glad I got my IT degree, even though I wanted to get the hell out of here after two months but couldn't, and I don't plan on EVER coming back.
There is one underlining positive that this school has, and even I can't deny that. Most of the teachers are superb, the best in their fields. But a lot of them are being forced out due to budget cuts forced on the school by the state of Virginia, or because Virginia under-funds Mason based on it's peer group. I have been asked a total of seven times by seniors in my hometown high school whose parents know me, as to whether I enjoyed my time down at Mason and away from our state. I tell them to do their own research, because they need their own opinions, but if I had to give a complete and honest opinion, I told them to NOT go. To be honest, I don't see this ever changing. I will probably ALWAYS tell people to stay far, far away from Mason at ALL costs.
(FYI- I was a Mason Ambassador and an RA during my time at Mason. Trust me, we more then just "fluff" things, we are known to be flowing an Admissions mandated set of "talking points." I can tell you, with complete honesty, Dean Flagel in Admissions has had his fights with President Merten over whether he can tell the "truth" about Mason or not, or if it is ethical to continue to "stretch" the truth about the school.)
is it really that bad?
Your story makes no sense.
You say you wanted to leave after 2 months, yet you stuck around for four years and sound like you were pretty involved on campus.
You say it was too expensive to transfer, but most of the public universities in Virginia cost about the same.
Also if your statistic of 35% of freshmen transfering out is accurate than it can't really be that hard.
As far as degrees go, I thought most people knew that an undergraduate degree doesn't go as far as it did 20 years ago.
A lot of people will have to go to grad school to get their dream job.
This isn't unique to Mason.
By the way you sound like a real loser.
You said you don't plan on ever coming back to Mason, yet here you are posting on Connect2Mason at midnight.
What's the matter, nothing to do out in the real world?
-Monotreme
"Have YOU hugged a Platypus today?"
No. Even if you're not into
No.
Even if you're not into parties, there's still no social life to speak of unless you want to conform to a frat/sorority, but even they don't have a row for parties, so all they really do is hold lame "events" and wear stupid shirts.
The trick is to get really good grades/SAT scores and go to a snooty private liberal-arts school where you learn a lot and have lots of fun. Mason is neither of those, so we get the rejects from other schools and old people trying to get degrees.
...
I currently attend GMU as a second year transfer and personally I like mason but I can see that there are quite a few things people disagree with.
1. not a very big party atmosphere
2. commuting and parking (terrible)
3. no football team
other than those problems...
For me those problems dont stand as an extremely huge problem becase 1) im there for the education and i kno how to make my own fun 2) im not planning on having my car there and 3)im into basketball more than ftball
-->is there anything else that seems negative to you?
-->more importantly, are there any other positives??i would really appreciate if you could tell me anything that you think would be beneficial to me deciding whether or not i should go to mason
thanks
Sarina
mason has been a good school for me
If you are serious about education Mason is a good pick, assuming what you want to study is offered here.
Most of the professors are excellent and it's usually easy to meet with them outside of class if you have questions.
There are plenty of parties and social events around GMU/Fairfax if you know where to look.
I guess the other posters just never get invited to any.
If you did decide to bring your car, the parking situation will be fixed long before you arrive on campus anyway.
-Monotreme
"Have YOU hugged a Platypus today?"
Would probably be able to help more if...
We knew what you were majoring in. Do you have any idea yet?
Actually im undecided between 3 or 4
Right now I am interested in the pre-med program majoring in possible biology, psychology, social work, or politics etc.....i want to eventually become a doctor, however have not chosen between that or becoming a social worker...but i want to get involved in the government in the future possibly...does that help alittle?
Sarina